Rob Dibble chat
Normally, I try to avoid anything involving Rob Dibble, but for some reason I decided to read his chat on ESPN.com the other day. It was pretty much par for his course, and I figured I'd take a page out of Mike Carminati's book and review the chat. If you get a kick out of reading this, let me know, and maybe I'll make it a regular thing like Mike's "Joe Morgan Chat Day."
Mike has a "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" theme to his Joe Morgan Chat Days, but I'm just going to go through Dibble's comments in order and give my thoughts. On to the chat:
Jason, Los Angeles: Rob - How common is it really to use a corked bat in batting practice, in order to give the fans more home runs? It seems to me that Sosa should never have had to use it at all with all of his ability.
Rob Dibble: We had hall of famer Ozzie Smith on the radio show today and he said the last thing you do is use a lighter bat in bp to sharpen your skills. Ozzie used a heavier bat to quicken his hands for the game. I didn't know too manyplayers that used batting practice to show off. Mostly they use bp to work on fundamentals like bunting, hitting runs, and things that will actually help them in the game. Only in the last round of bp will hitters try to hit the ball out of the park.
Ben: I don't know what "hitting runs" means, but the rest of this already makes me wonder why I decided to read this chat. Hey Dibble, you think 505-homer-hitting, outfielder Sammy Sosa follows the exact same batting practice routine as light-hitting, defensive wizard at shortstop Ozzie Smith? Yeah, I guess they probably do. Sammy probably takes three or four rounds of bunting practice because he needs to do it so often in the games... And who knows? Maybe hitting some bombs in BP to get the fans going actually helps Sosa in the game.
Aaron (Fort Wayne, IN): Dibble, do think Sammy Sosa corked his bat om purpose?
Rob Dibble: Aaron, why else would somebody send bats to a professional 'bat corker' (or whatever you call someone who corks bats.) But whether it was premeditated for bp or a game, some thought had to go into it. And it's not like he just corked the bat last week, I'm sure it takes some time since it takes months to fill normal bat orders. Sosa is aging and struggling. Since being beaned in the head by Torres' fastball on April 20th, Sosa is hitting .243, with one home run and four RBI. He's struck out 33 times in 80 at bats. Since coming off the DL, he's 3-for-21 with 12 Ks. Including 3 K's in four at bats last night.
Ben: First of all, who's picking the questions here? Of course Sammy corked his bat on purpose. He said he did. The relevant question to ask is whether or not he used the corked bat on purpose. I don't know why Dibble tried to come up with an argument that Sosa corked his bat on purpose (what does the amount of time it takes to cork a bat have to do with anything?), but he does do well to point out Sosa's struggles since the beaning.
Josh(Tuscaloosa,AL): Did you know Chris Sabo had a corked bat at his infamous plate appearance?
Rob Dibble: Josh, no I wasn't with the Reds at the time and having played with him for 10 years, I once saw him cut a dozen bats into little pieces when he felt they weren't working for him.
Ben: Can we get somebody to pick worthwhile questions here? Is Dibble running this thing all by himself? I sure hope not...
Jennifer, LA: Different topic: Do you think that once Clemens finally reaches 300 wins, the Yankees will relax and play up to their expectations? Or do you think their woes are originated from front office problems?
Rob Dibble: Jennifer, the Yankees offense is not their problem. After the starting pitchers got off to such a great start, they all seemed to get into a slump at a same time. They now have an uphill battle just like the Red Sox playing some quality teams from the NL Central during interleague play. Right now they just have to stay with the Red Sox because they don't have nearly the quality of pitching that the Yankees do. Once Bernie Williams and Nick Johnson come back their offense will really be clicking. And now that Jeter has been named team captain the team finally has an identity.
Ben: This one makes my head hurt. First of all, the question doesn't even mention the Yankees offense (that word is office, Rob. You know, the place you go to do your work. Oh wait, you probably don't know). Second, the offense is the problem, or a big part of it. The Yankees have played 32 games since the end of April and scored three or fewer runs in 16 of them. Third, if you realize the offense will be better when Bernie and Johnson come back, how can you not realize it's a problem now? Fourth, are you kidding me with this Jeter thing? I highly doubt that Hideki Matsui came into the clubhouse the other day and said, "Hey, Jeter's the captain now. I know what I need to do. I will now hit 50 home runs."
chet, lexington, ky: i heard you say on espn that you were not surprised about the mlb's findings on sammy's bats. do you really believe this could be a conspiracy?
Rob Dibble: Well Chet where do I start??? Can we start with the 280 millions dollar collusion lawsuit we won from the MLB owners back in the early '90's or should we just say that I have been around the game long enough to know they would be crazy to out one of their biggest stars. The game has had so much negative press in the last year, the last thing baseball needs is another black eye.
Ben: This is a nice argument to make now that the results are public. Dibble can't be proven wrong when he says MLB wouldn't have announced that the bats had cork in them because they had already announced that they didn't have cork in them. As Rob Neyer said in his chat today, I have trouble believing MLB could have gotten everything organized enough to pull off a conspiracy that would have involved so many people.
Dibble's not the only person I've seen make this argument, however, and I'd like to give a little analogy (don't read anything into the analogy about my thoughts on homosexuality, I'm just trying to make a point).
A straight politician is running for office and a tabloid starts a rumor that he is gay. The politician makes a statement that he is not gay. The tabloid says, "Well, of course he says he's not gay. He couldn't say he's gay because he wouldn't be able to get elected." The tabloid is right that he couldn't say he's gay, but it's because he is, in fact, not gay.
I don't have any insight whatsoever into how MLB examined these bats, but neither do any of the people making these arguments. Isn't it more likely that MLB said the bats weren't corked because, in fact, they weren't corked?
Scott (Seattle): Does NY having a "team captain" really make a difference? I mean how many WS did they win when they were lacking a team captain?
Rob Dibble: Yes Scott because this is not the same team that won 4 championships. They're just a few leftovers on the new Yankees and I think Steinbrenner realizes that the heart and body were there, but they needed a head to take it in the right direction. Captain Jeter....is your new head.
Ben: Well, Dibble's right that this isn't the same team, but can somebody please find Rob a new head? A new brain at the very least? No? How about a sedative? A very heavy sedative?
Rob, Anchorage, AK: Can the Reds make it to the playoffs without adding a 1 type Starting Pitcher.
Rob Dibble: What are a number 2 and 3 Rob? Right now the only one throwing the ball well is Danny Graves and he's a converted reliever. If the Reds are going to go to the playoffs, they're going to have to do more than score 6 runs a game.
Ben: Graves had a 4.79 ERA at the time of Dibble's chat. Not counting his last start because it was after Dibble's chat, Graves has allowed 14 runs in 22 innings in his last three starts. This is a good thing? And considering the Reds are scoring less than five runs per game (4.98) right now, I think they'd be in damn good shape if they started scoring 6 runs a game.
Jeremy(Anniston,AL): As a great former relief pitcher, in your opinion is John Smoltz have the stuff to become the greatest closer of all time, or did he start to late in his career?
Rob Dibble: Well Jeremy...he's definitely the best closer in the game right now and if he keeps getting 55 saves a year I think he can easliy get 400+ saves to go with his quality starting record to be known as one of the best all-around pitchers that has ever played. He is better now than before he had his elbow surgery. I think his arm is bionic. Right now Smoltz is 36, and I think it's completely up to he and his arm to whether he plays into his 40's.
Ben: Rob, as a current idiot, in your opinion is this really the answer you want to give. First, Smoltz is not "definitely the best closer in the game right now." Smoltz has 22 saves in 23 opportunities, a 0.84 ERA, a 0.87 WHIP and 11.69 strikeouts per nine innings. Eric Gagne has 20 saves in 20 opportunities, a 2.10 ERA, a 0.63 WHIP, and 16.2 K/9IP. The only place Smoltz really has an advantage is ERA and surely, as a great former relief pitcher, Dibble knows that ERA can be midleading, especially for a reliever.
As for Smoltz being able to reach 400 saves, well he's on pace to have 125 at the end of this season. If he gets there, and that's a big if, he'd need to average exactly 55 saves for five more seasons, during the last of which he would turn 41. Does anybody really think this is a possibility? Smoltz is 36 and barely one-fifth of the way to 400, there's absolutely no way he reaches 400 saves "easily."
Jon (Chicago): Cubs need another big bat in the lineup. The lack of run production is killing them. If you are GM, who do you go after, and what do you give up for them?
Rob Dibble: If Mike Lowell is for sale and the Cubs have what the Marlins want, I think there would be no better fit in the Cubs lineup than a power hitting third baseman. Jon, I think that everyone else has played real well and they have a very deep bench and when they go to the playoffs they will need all the help they can get. They have great starting pitching, a solid bullpen, and their defense is really good as well. That can win them a championship, they just need the offensive numbers to get them to the playoffs first.
Ben: The Cubs could certainly use Mike Lowell, and I'm not going to criticize Rob at all on this answer. It's his best of the chat.
Springfield, MO: Because of the improved Braves offense, is this going to be the year they win the world series?
Rob Dibble: The Braves have everything they need as far as offense and bullpen. This year, Maddux has been less than Maddux and Hampton just hurt his left groin today. Paul Byrd is still hurt, so if the Braves don't figure out a better starting rotation down the stretch, all that offense and bullpen may not be enough for...a championship.
Ben: The Braves obviously have a great offense and, Roberto Hernandez notwithstanding, they do have a pretty good bullpen. The Angels just won a World Series with good offense plus good bullpen plus decent pitching. Why can't the Braves?
Gordon (nyc): Hi Rob, how do you see andy pettitte's career turning out, he is 30 years old with 132 wins and 4 rings. He could end up with some impressive stats but would people dismiss them as a result of playing for great teams? Thanks
Rob Dibble: Andy Pettitte is very complex to me. He has all the neccessary tools to win a Cy Young award. I think that Andy fights himself too much, he has to believe in his stuff. He has to believe he can get anyone out with any of his pitches at any time. Freddie Garcia with the Mariners is much along the same road. Once guys start to loss confidence, it's hard to get it back. But both pitchers are all star quality, they just have to keep telling themselves they are.
Ben: And Dibble just needs to keep telling himself he's a good announcer, then it will all be okay. What a crock. How many players get better because they've begun telling themselves they're All-Star quality? Hey, Jamie Moyer doesn't have great "stuff." If he starts telling himself he's not All-Star quality, will he stop being such a good pitcher?
Adam ( Atlantic, Va): Hey Rob, Who in the game today besides Clemens and Maddux do you think has the best shot at winning 300.
Rob Dibble: I like Barry Zito. He's only 25 years old and he's already won 53 games. If he just keeps pitching the way he's pitching and can stay healthy until he's 40 I don't see a problem.
Ben: Oh boy. It's fine to say that Zito has the best shot of the young players to reach 300, but to say anything that involves the phrase "stay healty," the age "40," and the phrase "I don't see a problem" is stupid. Unless you're saying, "I don't see a problem with waiting to see if he can stay healthy until he's 40 before we talk about how many wins he'll end up with."
Also, the pitcher with the best shot at winning 300 after Clemens and Maddux is Tom Glavine. Glavine's 37 years old and he only needs 53 more wins. He's certainly not a sure thing for 300, but he's much more likely to get there then Barry Zito.
That's all of the chat. Rob, could you head on over to Neyer's chat to see how it's done? Eh, don't bother. You'll probably just get confused...
I hope you all enjoyed. Dibble's chats are certainly more fun when you get to respond, even if he never gets the message.